Comments on: Is cheap, confinement raised meat lighting the fuse on the next flu pandemic? http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/2009/05/17/is-cheap-confinement-raised-meat-the-fuse-on-the-next-flu-pandemic/ Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:25:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: htwollin http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/2009/05/17/is-cheap-confinement-raised-meat-the-fuse-on-the-next-flu-pandemic/#comment-86 htwollin Tue, 19 May 2009 11:33:06 +0000 http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/?p=462#comment-86 Go to the links and read the stories and read the information that those links have been linked to - the evidence that swine have the ability to recombine viral materials is pretty much irrefutable at this point... Go to the links and read the stories and read the information that those links have been linked to – the evidence that swine have the ability to recombine viral materials is pretty much irrefutable at this point…

]]> By: womens evening shoes http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/2009/05/17/is-cheap-confinement-raised-meat-the-fuse-on-the-next-flu-pandemic/#comment-85 womens evening shoes Tue, 19 May 2009 04:43:48 +0000 http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/?p=462#comment-85 Fantastic. care to share your sources :) ? Fantastic. care to share your sources :) ?

]]> By: htwollin http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/2009/05/17/is-cheap-confinement-raised-meat-the-fuse-on-the-next-flu-pandemic/#comment-84 htwollin Tue, 19 May 2009 01:18:20 +0000 http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/?p=462#comment-84 Sorry, Rodger..I can't agree with you. Many scientific investigations for the last forty years have shown a very tight connection for swine being the intermediaries for their own, avian and human viruses and their bodies do seem to have this cauldron like effect where viruses play 'ring the changes', switching around bits and pieces of viral materials, producing viruses that swine can pass on to human beings, especially under confinement raising conditions. Research in confinement operations in North Carolina have found that a high percentage of ag workers in those barns (read the articles cited above) have antibodies to these viruses. IMHO, this is not some sort of government or business conspiracy, but it is, again, my two cents, a case where business has taken advantage of lax enforcement and monitoring and has produced a situation where both from the environmental side and the public health side, they are endangering all of us. So far, H1N1 is not behaving like the 1918 influenza, but we may only be dodging the bullet on a situation that if this sort of thing is not stopped, we could be unleashing something not only here but also in Eastern Europe, that will behave like the avian flu in Southeast Asia, which had a 60% mortality rate. Sorry, Rodger..I can’t agree with you. Many scientific investigations for the last forty years have shown a very tight connection for swine being the intermediaries for their own, avian and human viruses and their bodies do seem to have this cauldron like effect where viruses play ‘ring the changes’, switching around bits and pieces of viral materials, producing viruses that swine can pass on to human beings, especially under confinement raising conditions. Research in confinement operations in North Carolina have found that a high percentage of ag workers in those barns (read the articles cited above) have antibodies to these viruses. IMHO, this is not some sort of government or business conspiracy, but it is, again, my two cents, a case where business has taken advantage of lax enforcement and monitoring and has produced a situation where both from the environmental side and the public health side, they are endangering all of us. So far, H1N1 is not behaving like the 1918 influenza, but we may only be dodging the bullet on a situation that if this sort of thing is not stopped, we could be unleashing something not only here but also in Eastern Europe, that will behave like the avian flu in Southeast Asia, which had a 60% mortality rate.

]]> By: HQ For Swine Influenza (Flu) http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/2009/05/17/is-cheap-confinement-raised-meat-the-fuse-on-the-next-flu-pandemic/#comment-83 HQ For Swine Influenza (Flu) Mon, 18 May 2009 18:37:31 +0000 http://www.kitchencountereconomics.com/?p=462#comment-83 I'm not sure that pigs are the "cauldron of viruses" that some have told us about. It seems to me that there are many groups who benefit from this 'surprise' outbreak. It seems to me that blaming pigs is an 'easy' out (they are naturally 'dirty,' so obviously they are at fault for this disaster). There are many movers and shakers who benefit from this event: Politicians get us focusing on something other than the economic problems. Big Pharma gets many billions of dollars in guaranteed, new, vaccine production contracts. Mexican drug lords get off the front pages as something else gets blamed for the deaths of innocent Mexicans. We have multiple reports available which point to labs where this exact virus is being developed for study. It seems to me that a little industrial espionage could have come in to play to get some of this material released. Rodger Bailey, MS <a href="http://swineflupandemic.ekernels.com/" rel="nofollow"><b>HQ For Swine Influenza (Flu)</b></a> I’m not sure that pigs are the “cauldron of viruses” that some have told us about. It seems to me that there are many groups who benefit from this ‘surprise’ outbreak. It seems to me that blaming pigs is an ‘easy’ out (they are naturally ‘dirty,’ so obviously they are at fault for this disaster).

There are many movers and shakers who benefit from this event:

Politicians get us focusing on something other than the economic problems.

Big Pharma gets many billions of dollars in guaranteed, new, vaccine production contracts.

Mexican drug lords get off the front pages as something else gets blamed for the deaths of innocent Mexicans.

We have multiple reports available which point to labs where this exact virus is being developed for study. It seems to me that a little industrial espionage could have come in to play to get some of this material released.

Rodger Bailey, MS
HQ For Swine Influenza (Flu)

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